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		<title>Selling to the virtuous</title>
		<link>http://benatkin.com/2010/06/09/selling-to-the-virtuous/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Atkin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just realized one big thing that Freckle and Stack Overflow have in common: they have virtuosity built into the definition of their target market. Freckle&#8216;s target market is defined as small businesses where everyone trusts everyone else. That&#8217;s how &#8230; <a href="http://benatkin.com/2010/06/09/selling-to-the-virtuous/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just realized one big thing that Freckle and Stack Overflow have in common: they have virtuosity built into the definition of their target market.</p>
<p><a href="http://letsfreckle.com/">Freckle</a>&#8216;s target market is defined as small businesses where everyone trusts everyone else. That&#8217;s how it can be a social time tracking where everyone can see everyone else&#8217;s entries. And tagging makes seeing other peoples&#8217; entries useful for owners, managers, and employees alike.</p>
<p><a href="http://stackoverflow.com/">Stack Overflow</a>, on the other hand, is geared mainly towards programmers who want to cultivate knowledge. It&#8217;s also geared towards google searchers, but they&#8217;re not the core group, and don&#8217;t get the benefits available to the core group, like <a href="http://stackoverflow.com/faq#reputation">reduced advertising and moderation abilities</a>.</p>
<p>For a counter example, there are mass-email companies that sell their servers to spammers. And there are ones that avoid spammers, but have a hard time achieving separation just by how they define their target market (and saying <em>people who want to send mass email minus the spammers doesn&#8217;t work well). But <a href="http://www.campaignmonitor.com/">Campaign Monitor</a> circumvents that problem by marketing to </em><em>designers</em>, who are an intermediary between them and a larger group which includes spammers, that keeps most of the spammers out.</p>
<p>I think defining a good customer base is a large part of having a good customer base.</p>
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		<title>Why apps fail as marketing channels</title>
		<link>http://benatkin.com/2010/04/01/why-apps-fail-as-marketing-channels/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Atkin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I hear someone talk about how nice it would be to have a companion iPhone or Android app to a website, I want to know why. There are two reasons, and I think that one is more valid than &#8230; <a href="http://benatkin.com/2010/04/01/why-apps-fail-as-marketing-channels/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I hear someone talk about how nice it would be to have a companion iPhone or Android app to a website, I want to know why. There are two reasons, and I think that one is more valid than the other:</p>
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<li>They want to provide the customer with a better user experience.</li>
<li>They think that if the user has their app installed they&#8217;ll be more likely to use their product. Thus, it&#8217;s a marketing channel.</li>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think reason #2 holds up to scrutiny. First, I have 5 pages of iPhone apps, but two of them, <a href="http://www.atebits.com/tweetie-iphone/">Tweetie</a> and <a href="http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/notetaker/">Dan Bricklin&#8217;s Note Taker</a>, account for more than 90% of my app usage. Many of them I haven&#8217;t touched since installing. Second, after the initial flurry of installing and trying out apps, I rarely install a new app because I don&#8217;t need more apps that I don&#8217;t use.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not a typical user, but I&#8217;m inclined to think that most casual iPhone users either don&#8217;t install many apps, don&#8217;t use many of their apps, or both.</p>
<p>Another angle, though, is that to me, it sounds kind of arrogant to think that just because you have your app on someone&#8217;s phone they&#8217;re likely to use it. That&#8217;s like the marketer who thinks that if they get a nice commercial on TV, sales will roll in, even if the product isn&#8217;t remarkable. I think what <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/">Seth Godin</a> says in <a href="http://www.sethgodin.com/purple/">Purple Cow</a> is right: you have to be remarkable to be noticed. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll be noticed just because your icon is on peoples&#8217; iPhones.</p>
<p>I think some people are attached to this idea, though, so much so that they&#8217;ll argue to project managers or developers that it will provide a better user experience, and express doubt over the ability of alternatives, like HTML 5 mobile sites, to provide a good user experience.</p>
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		<title>Urlvertising</title>
		<link>http://benatkin.com/2006/02/03/urlvertising/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Atkin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got linked to an MSDN blog and noticed that the URL was http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/11/08/490348.aspx. I don&#8217;t think that this is the actual folder structure on the server&#8217;s filesystem. I think it&#8217;s just what gets passed on to a script, that &#8230; <a href="http://benatkin.com/2006/02/03/urlvertising/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got linked to an MSDN blog and noticed that the URL was <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/11/08/490348.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/11/08/490348.aspx</a>.  I don&#8217;t think that this is the actual folder structure on the server&#8217;s filesystem. I think it&#8217;s just what gets passed on to a script, that determines what content is being requested, and generates that content.</p>
<p>The &#8220;.aspx&#8221; must be deliberate. I think it&#8217;s an advertisement to anyone who programs computers that the website uses XML-based ASP (Active Server Pages, a Microsoft technology).</p>
<p>I think that this is pretty silly, because the extensions in the URLs are extra typing, are incorrect after switching languages, and don&#8217;t make things any easier for developers that are using URL dispatchers.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I think it&#8217;s a pretty slick move by Microsoft, and in some way I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing it countered by Java, Python, and Ruby programmers.</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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